St Mary’s Church Moseley
Minutes of a Meeting of the Parishioners and the Annual Parochial church Meeting Held at St Mary’s on Sunday 24 February 2008
The meeting opened with prayer and welcome from the chairman, The Revd Jeremy Dussek.
- Apologies:
Anne Bold, Peter Magson, Michael Hell, Penny & Vernon Batsford, Cathie & John Carey, Shirley Smith, Trish Everett, Peggy Langdale-Smith, Pat & Laura Dowell, Mark Simons, Harry griffin, Kate Stocks, Jokhim Meikle, Chris Hirsch, Martin Miller, Jennifer Holloway
- Minutes of the meeting of the Parishioners and of the Annual Parochial Church meeting held on Sunday 29th April 2007.
The minutes of this meeting were proposed by Jean Lindley, seconded by Harry Rawlings approved and signed by the Chairman.
- Matters arising
None.
- Meeting of the Parishioners
Appointment of Churchwardens
There were two nominations for the posts of Churchwarden: John Dowell proposed by Liz Blakey, seconded by Robert Brown, and Jan Miller proposed by Liz Blakey, seconded by Robert Brown. As there were no other nominations John and Jan were elected unanimously to serve as Churchwardens. Jeremy thanked them for all their work.
- Annual Parochial Church Meeting
- Jeremy thanked Jenny Livermore for her work. Jenny reported that there were 204 names on the new electoral roll. (The number on the previous roll was 201). No names have been deleted.
- Churchwardens’ Report
John Dowell referred to the wardens’ report in the annual report, and drew special attention to the quinquennial inspection carried out in September 2007; £40,000 has been allocated as the estimated cost of work which needs to be done in the next 5 years, however the movement in the north-east corner of the church is worrying and extra expenditure may be necessary, there will be an investigation into this area very soon. Security and safety — the first measure has been put in place — a private sign by the side entrance to protect against unauthorised entry. Jeremy thanked John and Jan for their report and for all the work they do for us.
- PCC report
No further comments. Jeremy thanked Ann for her work.
- Treasurer’s report
Jeremy said that no questions had been submitted in advance. Helen Collett asked why there were no accounts. Jeremy said that by law the accounts had to be completed by 30th April and it had not been possible to get them done by the APCM. Robert Brown said that the accounts should be available at the APCM whenever it is held and suggested that if they are approved by the PCC they can be passed at the next APCM, however if they are not passed by the PCC a special meeting must be called.
- Reports of various activities during 2006
Jeremy thanked all those who had contributed reports and were working hard at the various activities.
- Elections
- To the PCC
Jeff Isaacs, Jenny Livermore, Adam Maclean, Robert Slater and Angus Watson were elected for 3 years. Helen McNicoll was elected to fill a 1 year casual vacancy. Jeremy said that to prevent the PCC from becoming "top-heavy" with clergy there would be clergy representation at PCC, there would also be 1 lay reader on each PCC. Robert Brown said that there must be an elected named reader; Jonathan Hodgson said that he would be happy for Cathie Carey to be the named reader on St Mary’s PCC; Cathie was proposed by Rob Brown, seconded by Lis Sparrow and elected unanimously. Jeremy thanked those who were retiring from PCC.
- To Deanery Synod
St Mary’s is entitled to have 5 elected representatives on Deanery Synod, nominations had been received for Rosemary Berridge, Michael Hell and Mike Stocks before the meeting, Rob Brown was proposed and seconded at the meeting. Jeremy explained that Deanery Synod discussed issues and recommendations were passed to Diocesan Synod and from there to General Synod. Hansa Shah asked how Deanery Synod relates to PCC, Jeremy said that PCC received reports of each Deanery Synod meeting. Jeremy thanked Alison Johnson who was retiring from Deanery Synod after 6 years.
- To Standing Committee
Rob Brown was proposed by Lis Sparrow, seconded by Mike Stocks as PCC rep on Standing Committee
- Sidespeople
Jan Miller said that they were desperate for more sidespeople at all services and asked for volunteers; John Dowell proposed that the present sidespeople were elected en bloc, Jan seconded. The wardens were authorised to co-opt more people as necessary. Jeremy thanked all sidespeople.
- Independent Examiner
Rob Brown proposed that Deidre Mattison be appointed subject to her agreement, Mick Perrier seconded and the appointment was agreed.
- Chairman’s Remarks
Jeremy asked the meeting to refer to his annual report Our First Year Together in which he reports on our progress towards becoming a Worshipping, Learning, Communicating and Hospitable Community.
In April when the two PCCs meet they will endorse this document, and on Thursdays in May there will be meetings to discuss the four elements of the document in groups with the aim of producing a Vision document in July including an estimate of how much it will cost in money, resources and people. On 7 April Andrew Mottram from Ecclesiastical Property Solutions will be coming to a meeting of joint Standing Committees.
- Questions
- Rosemary Berridge asked about when the updated parish list of names & addresses, and the updated parish directory would be available, Jeremy said that they needed to be done for the benefice, and should be ready soon.
- Betty Clarke thanked all the Coffee & Co helpers, those who helped on Wednesdays until it closed, and those who continued to help on Saturdays. She also acknowledged with appreciation the enormous amount of work done be Sheila Perks and others who worked behind the scenes, and those who had volunteered to help with Christian Aid lunches.
- Jan Miller asked for volunteers to organise the Coffee Pot rota.
- Result of Elections
N/A.
- Date of next years’s Annual Parochial Church Meeting
1 March, 2009.
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St Anne’s Church Moseley
Minutes of Meeting of Parishioners and Annual Parochial church Meeting Held on 9 March 2008
- Apologies For Absence:
These were received from Vera Harley, Peter Howard, Paul Dean, Jayne Beauchamp, Hugh Pope and Mavis Gray.
- Minutes of Meeting of Parishioners and APCM held 25 March 2007
These were accepted as a true record and signed by the chair.
- Matters Arising:
- Charifund: Graham Hindley reported that advice had been taken and the current portfolio is not large enough to diversify but could consider other options in the future. Diocese does not have a problem with Charifund as there is no part of it invested in armaments, although some could be in tobacco. Will consider other forms for future investments.
- Grass: Getting quotes for plastic matting to be fitted to the grassed area at the back of church. As soon as work on guttering is finished this will proceed.
- Meeting of Parishioners:
Two nominations for position of church warden: Graham Hindley proposed by Graham Underhill seconded by Malcolm McDonald. John Gray proposed by Malcolm McDonald seconded by Terry Adams. Both were unanimously agreed.
- Election of Deputy Wardens:
Julia Griffin is standing down. She was thanked by Rosemary Donovan. Stephen Alabaster was proposed by Graham Hindley and seconded by Graham Underhill. Unanimously agreed.
- Annual Parochial Church Meeting:
- Electoral Roll:
After revision the total number on the roll is 76. Of this total 15 are resident in the parish and 61 are non resident. Eric Dwyer is standing down as electoral roll secretary. Jayne Beauchamp will take over.
- Churchwardens’ Report:
This was presented by John Gray on behalf of the wardens (recorded in the report).The following questions were raised.
- Could a litter bin be fitted to the outside of the church to encourage a cleaner environment?
This was not thought to be a good idea.
- Would the PCC consider fitting electric hand dryers in the toilets?
Eric Dwyer pointed out that people were still washing their hands in cold water. Revd Jeremy Dussek said that we were looking to upgrade facilities at both church sites.
- Update On Progress Of Bells
These will not be ready for Easter and the work will now start after Easter. However it is still hoped to meet the deadline of rededicating them on Ascension Day. Unfortunately no-one will now be able to watch the bell being cast. Graham Hindley thanked Jeremy and Rosemary for all their hard work.
- PCC Proceedings:
This was presented by Janet Thorne on behalf of the PCC (and recorded in the report). It was agreed that the minutes of all PCC meetings would be put on the notice board in church and the secretary accepted responsibility for this.
- Report from the Treasurer
An audited report was presented by Terry Adams. In it he stated that voluntary income was static with comparison to last year with a small surplus of £1000. There was a big drop in voluntary income, no jumble sale and proceeds from special events now shared with St Mary’s. There has been a rise in hall rents. Donations had all been for the bells. There has been a drop in clergy utilities as the gas was now back on track. There would be an end of year surplus but not promising the same for 2008. The following questions were asked.
- How much does the printing of service sheets cost? Terry said that there was a dispute with St Mary’s re the cost of photocopying. He has £500 in the budget and is prepared to pay that when he receives a proper invoice.
- Could services take place in the hall when the weather was cold? Jeremy said that Andrew Mottram was coming to look at both sites in April and further discussions would take place after that.
- Margaret Piggott Account
Audited accounts were presented by Graham Hindley. £22,250 income, £2,500 spent, surplus of £19,750.
- Discretionary Fund
Audited accounts were presented by Graham Hindley. Income £870, expenditure £955, deficit of £85.
Rosemary Donovan proposed acceptance of these accounts. They were unanimously accepted.
- Reports of Various Activities
These had all been presented prior to the meeting. There were no questions relating to any of these reports. Elisabeth Leicester pointed out that there was no report relating to MASS, Ghana and the Shoe Box appeal. Rosemary Donovan proposed acceptance of these reports. It was unanimously agreed.
- Elections
- PCC
The following members continue in office; Sonia Sheehan, Malcolm McDonald, Eric Dwyer, Graham Underhill, Jill Adams, Karen Gray. Four people standing down this year; Peter Howard, Nigel Whitling, Andrew Burns and Julia Griffin. One nomination had been received; Jenny Allen proposed by Graham Hindley and seconded by. A further nomination was received from the floor; Stephen Alabaster was proposed by Graham Hindley and seconded by Eric Dwyer. Both were unanimously agreed.
- Deanery Synod
Graham Hindley, Sabina Bealt, Terry Adams and Eric Dwyer currently serving. Eric Dwyer is retiring. All others re-elected.
- Sidespeople
There is one retirement this year, Hugh Pope. Current team P Alabaster, N Alexander, J Allen, R Buckle, R Curtis, F and V Field, M McDonald, D O’Brien, G Underhill. Reelection of team proposed by Graham Hindley and seconded by John Gray and agreed. The meeting gave authority to the wardens to add further names if required.
- Auditor to PCC
Ian Buckle was proposed by Terry Adams, seconded by Stephen Alabaster. and unanimously agreed.
- Chairs’ Remarks
Rosemary referred to the publication “Our First Year Together” which she said gave a clear understanding of the vision. Theology would underpin that vision. In May there would be opportunities to unpack and continue the journey. Consultants had been helpful. She asked all to be fellow travellers and thanked everyone for their team spirit.
- Questions
- Karen Gray proposed that perhaps the church should form a committee for ethical issues. Jeremy Dussek replied by saying that he thought we were doing too much and he wanted to do a few things well. He would like groups to discuss the way forward and look at what is realistically sustainable.
- Jill Adams suggested that perhaps we should be interacting with Susmos (the sustainable Moseley group).
- Elisabeth Leicester asked if the church was using green electricity suppliers and if not, was it being considered? Terry Adams said that all green suppliers cost more and St Anne’s simply cannot afford it.
- Results of Elections
These were already known.
- Date of Next meeting
1 March 2009, which will be a joint meeting with St Mary’s.
- PCC Meeting
A short meeting of the newly elected PCC took place following the APCM. At this meeting Janet Thorne was proposed as secretary by Rosemary Donovan and seconded by Jill Adams Unanimously agreed. Terry Adams was proposed as treasurer by Rosemary Donovan. Unanimously agreed.
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